• Microsoft Vista Preview

    Microsoft Vista Preview

    Punit Lodaya, Jul 23, 2006 1836 hrs IST

    It's almost five years since Windows XP was shipped and today we preview the beta of the next desktop OS

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It's almost five years since the last Desktop Operating System (OS) Windows XP was shipped by Microsoft. Microsoft Windows XP was a solid operating system considering it was based on an extremely stable NT code and was a significant upgrade from Windows 98/ME editions. The next upgrade known as Microsoft Vista will be shipped in January 2007. Before, it was given the name Vista; it was codenamed Longhorn and Microsoft was showing off its feature list planned for the OS. It was in close beta stages for quite some time and it has finally reached open beta stages in June 2006. Today, we have the second version of open beta test OS. The build number is 5456; and as we read it, another version has been shipped with few minor upgrades.

Microsoft announced that Windows Vista will ship in six editions. All versions will be available in both 32-bit and 64-bit architectures, except Windows Vista Starter which will only be available for 32-bit architectures.

1] Windows Vista Starter
2] Windows Vista Home Basic
3] Windows Vista Home Premium
4] Windows Vista Business
5] Windows Vista Enterprise
6] Windows Vista Ultimate

Sounds confusing? You can hop on to Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for detailed information on each version. A partial table of the features planned for each edition is also available.

Requirements

Microsoft has given out rather hefty requirements for running vista in its full glory. With a recommended memory of 1 GB (consider that as minimum in order to have a pleasant experience with the OS), I guess many people who have purchased their PC in the past year or so, will not jump on to the new OS (The standard de facto today is around 512 MB). RAM standards are based on two things;
1. How much RAM will the OS require?
2. How much RAM will be needed to run application/s?

The first question will answer the recommended RAM for the OS; and the second one combined with the first answer will give the RAM needed to have the best experience on the OS.

Based on my personal experience with the OS, consider getting around 2 GB RAM for a pleasant experience with the OS. The OS itself used around 650MB of physical memory and around 540 MB of virtual memory. Considering most high end game as of right now, needs around 800 MB of RAM with 256 MB based graphic card in Windows XP. In Vista, this usage may rise to around 900 MB, since the Aero GUI is a graphic card rendered GUI. Also, a 512 MB based high end graphic card will be required as it will not only have to render the game, but also the Vista GUI. But, all those who have already purchased 2 GB memory kits, don't rejoice just as yet. I am speaking about the current generation games. With the advent of Direct X 10, games based on it will have even more higher requirements. Gamers will have to migrate to Vista, as Windows XP won't be getting Direct X 10 support.

So, this is just my speculation that by the time the final version of Vista is shipped, 2 GB will be the recommended specification in order to run those memory intensive applications such as Photoshop very smoothly.

All this time, I was speaking only about the memory usage. There are still two more important things to be considered; i.e. CPU and GPU.

Due to the graphical interface, the CPU usage was considerably higher. 25-40% of the CPU was constantly under load on an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ with no tweaking done. But, by the time Vista arrives, one will be able to pick a high end dual core based CPU for a very low price due to a price tussle going on between AMD and Intel, which is bound to last till Q1 2008.

But, what about the GPU? Well, I am still experimenting on this one. For the time being, the performance penalty is just not worth keeping the pretty GUI Aero on. However, Microsoft seems to have stopped further development on the features of the OS for the time being, and is just concentrating to speed it up; trying to get it resource friendly.

I tested it on a very basic machine to see how smoothly it functions. The machine comprised of:

1] AMD Athlon 64 3200+
2] MSI K8NGM2-FID (6150 NB + 430 SB)
3] 512 * 2 MB Transcend RAM 2.5-3-3-7
4] 500 GB 7200 RPM Western Digital HDD
5] Zebronics 300 Watt SMPS

Though it performed well, the system did seem a bit sluggish though and matched no where near the speed of Windows XP.

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(88) Comments
ganesh
,mumbai, on Mar 01, 2008 04:08 PM
ok
ShaN
,chennai, on Mar 04, 2007 12:44 PM
i need this version
Jeff
,Bangalore, on Feb 19, 2007 04:05 PM
By the way I am looking for a geniune copy of Vista... Pirated no need for it... Thanks all the same
farrie
,bangalore, on Aug 15, 2006 11:52 AM
where can i get the pirated copy of windows vista in bangalore?
Jeff
,Bangalore, on Feb 19, 2007 04:01 PM
Looking for a copy too... Please let me know if you come across a retailer. Thanking you in advance
Aravind G
,Bangalore, on Sep 16, 2006 06:33 PM
This is great review
Anupam Saha
,Kolkata, on Aug 22, 2006 03:22 PM
Its combines great looks, absolutely fabulous.
Ashuthosh
,Bhusawal, on Aug 17, 2006 07:31 PM
Its a Superb OS.
Vikas Joshi
,Mumbai, on Jul 24, 2006 09:37 AM
Wow, its really looking cool, lets see how its runs,
Vishal Panchal
,Birmingham, on Aug 09, 2006 03:55 AM
When i planed to build my system, i built it in a way that it will be totally compatable with Vista. costing me over ?2000. my pc is running Vista Beta 2 Ultimate Edition. i'm on Vista right now. i've been using it for a few weeks now and apart from the odd bug here and there, the computer is running very nicely. with a rating of 4 from the performance indicator built into Vista. if u have a pc that is more then a year old. u'r looking to buy a new pc. unless it has sifficient upgrade space.
HKC
,Surat, on Aug 17, 2006 03:36 PM
1 gb of ram plus some good overhead to keep other apps running....that is like asking for a bit too much....a dual core pc may also not solve the problem of sluggish performance necause majority of the softwares are not designed to rrun on dual cores...and continuos load on the processor ll be unacceptable for ppl running their pcs for days together....
ravi gupta
,pune, on Aug 12, 2006 08:07 PM
OLUWASEUN OYEDE
,Lagos, on Aug 12, 2006 01:14 AM
nice
Prakhash
,Coimbatore, on Aug 09, 2006 03:22 PM
Its Dazziling
drbansi
,Mumbai, on Aug 06, 2006 04:47 PM
Woul'd you congifure min. system required for Windows Vista Starter ( for mid renge budget )
Miteshkumar
,Mumbai, on Aug 04, 2006 11:37 AM
Its amazing...............I have no words for vistas dsscreption
sriharsha
,shimoga, on Aug 01, 2006 08:43 PM
sounds gr8,megasoft i mean microsoft is an gaint.so lets see dis....
y v sai madhav
,rayagada, on Jul 31, 2006 11:00 PM
apple has done it and been there.but the killer ap for vista, in my humble opinion is the ram booster which makes it possible to increase the ram with the help of a flash drive.
krishnachaitany
,hyderabad, on Jul 30, 2006 05:31 PM
its outstanding
Amit
,kolkata, W.B., India, on Jul 30, 2006 12:24 PM
looking good
Atul
,ghaziabad, on Jul 28, 2006 05:29 PM
this os has beautiful graphics features but not able to say anything untill use it.
Ashwin
,Mumbai, on Jul 28, 2006 03:26 PM
I've heard that MS is going to launch a DX10 like version for WinXP, called XDX9 or something. This seems to be a scaled down version of DX10 including some of it's major features. Has anyone heard about this, or have more information?
Rakesh
,Hyderabad, on Jul 28, 2006 02:36 PM
I've gone through 1st 3 pages awesome by looking at the screen shots i can imagine my next PC how it would be.. :-) You explained evidently... I worked on vista in my office, i see my system wont match the configuration at any corner to install Vista.. Good that you are marketing AMD :-) in first page... If we get AMD in low cost which gives the same features then users who just want to run Vista would buy AMD... Ofcourse INTEL brand name .. standard (like Nokia in mobile phones).... ***no comparision in brand names its my outlook***
SANTOSH
,BELGAUM, on Jul 28, 2006 11:31 AM
WHATS ABOUT INTERNET SECURITES & NETWORK SECURITES FOR VISTA XP PROTECTION
gabainkol
,Kolkata, on Jul 28, 2006 03:05 AM
nextgen os.. it will be more user friendly
Daniel J Yee
,Chicago, on Jul 28, 2006 01:20 AM
It Boring , It look like XP.
gaggi
,Delhi, on Jul 27, 2006 03:41 PM
is windows vista compaptible with all these latest games, and can it be installed with xp also
Rohan
,Chd, on Jul 24, 2006 06:46 AM
hey cant we just tweak down the setings and run games after that i mean it wont consume as much ram and wont crap up the graphics card either so i dont think it relli matters if u hav a shity computer itll probally work fine...
sanpan
,Mumbai, on Jul 27, 2006 02:31 PM
Here's an idea...tweak down the settings and run Vista on your low end computer and buy a gaming console for gaming. Nothing beats a console for gaming.
Bill Gates
,Microsoft, on Jul 27, 2006 07:48 AM
Punit, I hope you recieved a cheque of 10 Million $ from me to write such a nice review.
Haridas
,Trivandrum, on Jul 25, 2006 09:34 AM
Microsoft eats more memory for their new version it is not recommended from my side. Better is to develop new version that can also work in old systems. Otherwise people won't accept new versions immediately. When each version arrives people accept it only after a long period because of these compatibility Hardware problems.
Pokiri
,Hyderabad, on Jul 25, 2006 10:39 AM
Yes you are true.To have 1 GB RAM to work with Vista it seems to impossible.I think everybody will happy with XP only.
Navneet Vasant
,Nagpur, on Jul 25, 2006 11:37 AM
Dear Haridas, Microsoft don't build OS for small buyers like us...what they keep in mind is requirement of there Big clients who use to pay them in tons....not for EU who seek for where they can gate pirated one?and what's bad in that every second PC selling today is with 1GB RAM....and the OS is suppose to release in early 07....six months to go...
Pradip Shah
,Mumbai, on Jul 27, 2006 07:41 AM
You are so right. Just to kill the prospective parallel or subsequent test/migration to Linux, microsoft came out with what is called winmodem support. The hardware was so much cheaper than the conventional, serial port attached modem. which the manufaturers subsequently stopped producing . The damned win modems never worked with Linux. This kept a lot of experimenters away from Linux. When they came out with XP this support was dropped & everyone was left high & dry. Fortunately by that time tv cable companies had started making ethernet based internet connectivity available. Otherwise there would have been a major shortage of conventional modems.
Anand Tulpule
,Thane,Mumbai, on Jul 24, 2006 10:33 AM
I am Running Dell8200 and XPsp2.I am getting excellent support from Dell and Microsoft for the last 4years. Now since June29, 2006 I have Installed Vista Beta2. I tell you frankly that it is an excellent product. I will be upgrading to Vista soon. I understand from a Vista beat newsletters, that 30% discount is offered for upgrading to Vista (for those who will buy XP sp2 from June-Oct 2006.) I have noticed that whenever Microsoft products are discussed in tech papers gentlemen criticize. They really do great Marketing of Microsoft products. This they really never realized. Anyway Microsoft continues to make Billions of Dollars year after year by producing Inspiring Products. How people at Microsoft work? Kindly permit me to write my recent Experience-On Microsoft Vista beta2 site, I opted for Purchase of DVD for Rs.700.00 and swapped my credit card. Every time I did that I had a reply on the screen saying that City bank server is busy try again after sometime. The next day I got call from my Bankers (SBI) about the said transactions? They asked me how many transactions you have done on Microsoft. My reply was one transaction. The lady officer on duty told me that there are 13 transactions. For security reasons we are blocking your card and the new card will be delivered to you in 5 days. I did receive my Credit card on 5th day. I sent an e-mail to Microsoft and talked to their Singapore Office about the 13 credit card transactions. In 48 hours(June 12-June15,2006) I received reply from Microsoft (not computer generated) stating that sorry for the Inconvenience. We have asked our bankers to revert all transactions in your credit and it will be reflected in your next Credit card statement. We are sending you a complementary copy. I received the Vista DVD directly from Microsoft Singapore on June23, 2006. My Credit Card statement received on July3, 2006 also shows all entries made and reversed.
Ace
,Chennai, on Jul 24, 2006 12:42 PM
Yeah Anand, We can surely appreciate the customer service of Microsoft for the way they have responded for your solving you problem is Just to hide their technically flaw of making 13 same truncations to a bank. And Anand, remember microsoft is not a customer service organization, it's core objective should be the developing good quality OS and be the NO 1 in it. (Just another eg, Even Samsung provides me great customer service with poor quality Fridge which is of no use). Atleast now I think you should understand why Gentle man criticize Microsoft
emworld
,Mumbai, on Jul 25, 2006 11:41 AM
good eg of da fridge man.
Pradip Shah
,Mumbai, on Jul 27, 2006 07:19 AM
What I would like to know is where & how did you swipe your credit card on screen? I would really like to see. Do you have one of those special POS keyboards which allow this? SBI is large enough to have its own payment gateway. Since when has SBI started issuing City( or should be CITI) Bank credit cards? So where does City(CITI) bank come into the picture? Something is wrong with this whole episode as described by you.
Pradip Shah
,Mumbai, on Jul 27, 2006 07:30 AM
Another matter I forgot to point out. Did you install a full retail version of XP SP2? There is no way in hell that Microsoft is going to support any other version except paid support. What kind of support are getting from Dell on a 4 year old machine? Again nothing other than exhorbitantly priced paid support. In fact from their flyers that I have seen they don't even cover them for the local industry standard of 1 year.
Ace
,Chennai, on Jul 26, 2006 10:34 PM
techtree has really started churning out quality article.keep it up. good work punit.
mano
,THANJAVUR, on Jul 26, 2006 03:43 PM
Pls Send demo copy's........
Sunil
,Bangalore, on Jul 26, 2006 12:34 PM
I think it is best
nev
,mulund, on Jul 26, 2006 12:20 PM
Reading all the comments here, I think I will upgrade from my current WinXP Media Center somewhere towards the end of 2008 to whatever is the most viable option at that time.
Thomas
,Bangalore, on Jul 24, 2006 02:57 PM
Guys tell me is ter any way to automatically formard the content in a yahoo chat window????
nev
,mulund, on Jul 26, 2006 11:07 AM
go ask on some yahoo forum
srinivas
,bangalore, on Jul 25, 2006 11:54 AM
i saw gadget guru in ndtv profit and was told that, one can use their thumb drive to act as ram in vista os, if it is true, then ram problem wont be there, and more over the actual requirement from microsot is not exactly require.
Srivas
,Chennai, on Jul 25, 2006 11:00 PM
dont tell me that u follow sad tech programs. they dont even know half of the things.
Neeraj Aryan
,Faridabad, on Jul 25, 2006 02:58 PM
i like it very much its features and its look. it so impressive.
RKK
,Pune, on Jul 24, 2006 12:55 PM
Why the hell are the microsoft not making Directx10 compatible with Windows XP???? They should leave the choice to customer whether to upgrade to Vista or not. Monopoly at any cost cannot be tolerated.
Navneet Vasant
,Nagpur, on Jul 24, 2006 01:10 PM
Then don't use windows XP...Does Mr. Bill ask you to use his OS..??...after all Microsoft is doing business and not charity...He must block Direct X 10 for XP...Must Must Must....do you want everything in free.....
Arun Kumar
,Bangalore, on Jul 25, 2006 01:55 PM
Dear RKK, DX10 has been deeply integrated with Vista. Its just impossible to backport it to XP as it will break the entire OS. So its a Vista only feature.
ajith
,tvm, on Jul 23, 2006 10:02 PM
it doesn't matter even if they 10 new versions of windows... it will always be the same crap over and over...
Michel
,OR, on Jul 25, 2006 12:33 PM
well said ajith...microsoft can try to close bugs rather than introducing new versions (bugs)
Mohan
,Chennai, on Jul 25, 2006 12:15 PM
As long it's going to be stable, working with new version of OS and enjoying the features is not issue
Mike Reeves
,Carson, CA, on Jul 25, 2006 12:25 AM
I've waited for this? I can use Vista version 1 with tons of bugs or get a Mac running proven OS X... Sorry Microsof, I'm jumping ship over to the Mac side.
Bill
,MicroSoft, on Jul 25, 2006 11:30 AM
Oh Mike thanks for the same...Nowhere you are doing any favor on us by using Windows
Pratik
,Mumbai, on Jul 25, 2006 10:43 AM
datz fine but i still prefer windowsXP sp2 over it.
bharadwaj
,mumbai, on Jul 25, 2006 09:42 AM
it wll b nice
ashish bhaskar
,delhi, on Jul 24, 2006 10:28 PM
no
9871138747
,New Delhi, on Jul 24, 2006 10:05 PM
the dx 10 is the only soft ware that utilizes the dual core completely ie it uses bath the core and that was not possible on XP so NO DX 10 fr XP
9871138747
,New Delhi, on Jul 24, 2006 09:43 PM
i think the 98 se is still the best but thats is has all the driver support that i know microsoft has droped.
him2200
,Pune, on Jul 24, 2006 12:12 PM
Its going to be really expensive to upgrade from a XP based computer to a Vista capable computer. I was planning to upgrade my comp this november so that i could play the latest games. But now i feel that i will have to delay it so that the prices on Vista capable hardware can drop to reasonable levels. It seems microsoft has given undue importance to the GUI, which is going to burden the GPU a lot. All high-end graphics cards will only manage to handle the OS and Games simultaneously. Also the memory requirements seem too high for an OS. Buying a gaming PC was always an expensive affair and now with Windows Vista its going to become even more expensive
pete
,pershore, on Jul 24, 2006 09:07 PM
yes I am in the same boat I think I will be sticking with XP for another couple of years
Pierr Alex
,Paris, on Jul 24, 2006 08:37 PM
Every Vista's Beta looks a little bit more like Apple's OS X? Thats' pathetic !
srinivasa rao b
,bombay, on Jul 24, 2006 08:19 PM
it is not as much popular as windows
kailash joshi
,MIE, on Jul 24, 2006 07:12 PM
WHAT I THINK IT WILL NEVER COMPETE WITH WindowXp.
Keith Kindle
,Perry, on Jul 24, 2006 06:00 PM
I am running XP now. How much will the upgrade to Vista cost?
Daedelus
,Mumbai, on Jul 23, 2006 09:43 PM
With such high requirements the common man in india wont be able to afford a pc to smoothly run all apps in Vista ultimate. Also MicroSofts decision to make dx 10 not compatible with xp was a bad choice and will cost us a lot. Well it'll take atleast by Q3 '07 for every1 to be satisfied with performance of vista on their systems.
jagjit
,jalandhar, on Jul 24, 2006 02:52 PM
Sorry to say something, but Being an expert in Computers I can tell you that porting directX 10 in windows xp is simply not possible. The complete architecture of Win Vista is different and dx10 was made with that in mind. Dx will be compatible with vista only and nothing else. Now for the next part. Each installment of OS means a hefty upgrade and it has been for decades now. Nothing new here. Didn't you upgrade your PC for running Win XP. I remember I had to upgrade to 256MB from 64 MB that's 4 times and that's the same you need to do. You need 1 GB now. And it runs damn smooth on 1 GB so whosoever says Vista is slow and all just go to hell. I use Linux and I know how capable it is. And for those who feel Linux is better than Windows, just shut up. I have crashed Linux more than Windows. They are both good but in their own fields. Windows is and never was expensive. It is just that we Indians are used to steal software and now we don't feel llike paying for it as piracy has become a tradition. Ask me, I have been buying Windows since 95. I even bought Office 2000 and 2003. Paid 24000 for it in 2000 I remember. Being from a middle class I had to save for 4 months o buy it. Don't you pay ur Mobile phones bill that run into 1000's. and also ur petrol and diesel bills. And if you still think Windows is expensive I have a perfect suggestion for u. Just create an OS like a Windows sell it for Rs100. I can promise I will be the first one to buy it.
Grawp
,The Dark Forest, on Jul 24, 2006 04:51 PM
Wooh!!! Angry young expert
SivaGanesh Gude
,Vijayawada, on Jul 24, 2006 04:37 PM
Iam Running HCL BeanStalk MediaCenter Edition.Does it support my system.Currently Iam using 2000 server & MCE, does it support dual O.S. How many does this Beta Version works.Help me.
sagar
,pune, on Jul 24, 2006 03:53 PM
how do i download windows vista trial version
srikanth
,bangalore, on Jul 24, 2006 01:50 PM
pretty funny, 1gb of min Ram customers really thinks twice
Anonymous
,Jamshedpur, on Jul 24, 2006 01:10 PM
after reading this review it seems a really bad time for those who want to buy a pc. Intel processors have a heating problem, AMD Athlon 64 will be out from the market after Dec 06, and now we will have a new OS by Feb next year. For those like me who were looking for a pc are now really confused.......Man!! what a situation!!
Navneet Vasant
,Nagpur, on Jul 24, 2006 12:44 PM
WOW..WOW...WOW...Welcome Vista....
JAFAR S HUSSAIN
,MUMBAI, on Jul 24, 2006 11:34 AM
Hi this is really nice to read some outstanding and very good look and feel features of comming about winVista wow i am eagerly waiting . best regards jafar hussain --IT Officer
senthil
,erode, on Jul 24, 2006 11:13 AM
seeeeeeeeee
vkshah
,ghaziabad, up, india, on Jul 24, 2006 10:49 AM
Would like to upgrade to vista from win xp sp2 what to do for the same. how could i get an authenticate cd for the vista
RPassah
,Shillong, on Jul 24, 2006 10:22 AM
The requirement is toooo... futuristic, the H/W market is not yet ready for Vista. One good thing however is that it supports both 32 and 64 bit architecture...
Sarfaraz
,Mumbai, on Jul 24, 2006 09:44 AM
It would be difficult for anyone to upgrade to Vista due to it's high hardware requirements. I think it would be a great idea if MS can give away 1GB RAM with Vista OS box version. But I would say the features and GUI as shown looks really cool and great too.
Preeteshwar Sin
,Nabha, on Jul 24, 2006 05:07 AM
I never want to use Microsoft OS but the only problem is I am a game lover and all these games r only playable with Microsoft OS that I believe and thats a hell of problem.Had these games playable on Linux,I would have been using Linux from a very old time.Somebody have to develop an engine in Linux which can make games of MS OS based to be played in Linux
Ayan Debnath
,Kolkata, on Jul 24, 2006 09:43 AM
almost every game can be run on Linux system through WineX but it needs more resources than Vista.
binu
,coimbatore, on Jul 24, 2006 08:47 AM
its realy cool information.i am waiting to use windows wista in future.very useful information
Luis Garc?
,Barcelona, on Jul 24, 2006 02:52 AM
C?mo bajarlo o adquirirlo
sachin
,goa, on Jul 23, 2006 11:26 PM
vista is looking great.nice review with those screenshots.
ANIL MAHADEV
,BANGALORE, on Jul 23, 2006 10:46 PM
Take Ubuntu 6.06 LTS for a Test Drive :). I am movin away from Windows :)
Anish S Nambiar
,Hyderabad, on Jul 23, 2006 10:28 PM
Microsoft can be hated, can be ribbed, can be rogered for making products which are not secure but it definitely cant be ignored. With Vista here are the people who stand to gain 1. gaming companies trying to push their latest and greatest 2. Hardware manufacturing companies (AMD, Intel) 3. SMBs trying to hitch onto the MS bandwagon with a slew of products. The future for MS would be concentrating on segments like gaming, home user segment. The enterprise segment would belong to softwares such as Linux, Mainframes, Solaris. And MS is making a slow move in that direction.
Richeek Dey
,Hyderabad, on Jul 23, 2006 09:52 PM
evn i got da beta of Vista and my config is: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ with ATI's XPress 200 chipset with 512MB of DDR333RAM and its workkin fine!!! though i'd be gettin anthr 1.5GB of RAM and an ATi Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB!!!!

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