• Installing an Additional SMPS in your PC

    Installing an Additional SMPS in your PC

    Niketu Shah, Aug 26, 2005 1010 hrs IST

    What if the power requirements of your computer aren't sufficiently provided for by your existing SMPS?

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How can you not fall into trouble, if the power requirements of your computer aren't sufficiently provided for by your existing SMPS (Switch Mode Power Supply)? You might be wondering "Why put an extra SMPS when I just installed one with 300 Watts of power?" Your answer lies therein.

Well, for most of you power users out there, plugging in say, more than 3 IDE devices, which might be a combination of anything, from Hard Disk drives to CD/DVD ROM / RW drives or the latest SATA drives is a common practice... but it can never go beyond 4 devices, isn't it? Oh, did I forget to mention that cooling fans need some power too. It is very likely that you might end up with a blown SMPS or an unstable PC in case the power requirements of your computer are way beyond what the SMPS can deliver.

Say, you got a combination of the above devices along with some fans and your friend has got over his HDD to copy some of the cool stuff to and from your drive. You would be in a mess trying to figure out which drive to disconnect in order to connect his drive.

In such a scenario, to get many devices connected inside your PC and running peacefully at the same time, the only viable option seems to be replacing your existing 300W SMPS with the more expensive 450W or higher variant. But there's one more thing you can do to solve this problem and save a few bucks. Simply add another SMPS to your existing rig and enjoy the ride!

Just buy another SMPS from the market, with a true rating of at least 350 Watts. In case you are one of those who own a power-hungry card like the Geforce 7800, better go in for something more heavy duty such as a true 400 Watts SMPS. Ideally, replace your existing SMPS with this one and use the older one to drive smaller and less power hungry items in your computer (assuming that your new SMPS has a higher power rating than the old one).

To use an additional SMPS, you need to simply attach it to the various devices that would draw power from it as regular devices do. The ATX power connector needs to get a jump signal to turn it on. This happens when the necessary pins are shorted. It receives such a signal through your motherboard when you press the power switch. As your motherboard would only have one slot to connect the SMPS connector, you cannot connect the second SMPS to it. So to turn it on, you need to short particular wires or pins on the ATX power connector.

Caution: Beware of short circuits and blown SMPS or fried motherboards/CPUs if done in an incorrect manner. Kindly take precautions while doing this exercise by disconnecting the power supplies and other hard disks or IDE drives. Check for a grounding or earthing connection prior to installing an additional SMPS for safety sake.

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(53) Comments
rijban mansori
,chhatarpur, on May 13, 2010 11:26 AM
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Dharmesh
,Surat (Gujarat),India, on Dec 16, 2009 04:57 PM
Hi,I am dharmesh from india & I want to complete knowledge of all type smps repairing material with ckt diagram & pcb layout. Can you able to give material?
janakiram
,chittoor, on Dec 22, 2007 11:37 AM
i want full details about computer smps
mahes
,chennai, on Mar 21, 2008 12:01 PM
computer power switch on cpu fan is move and stop system
MITESH
,MUMBAI, on Apr 14, 2009 08:21 PM
Installing an Additional SMPS in MY PC
Ashok Patil
,Pune, on Nov 22, 2008 02:23 PM
D850GB has six pin connector for auxilay power But my newly purchased Intex SMPS does not have six pin auxilay power connector does not have six pin connector, It has got only four pin connector
denis dsouza
,goa, on Oct 19, 2008 11:14 PM
abdul basith
,thanjavur, on Sep 03, 2008 05:36 PM
how to check the smps
jagdish
,ahemadbad, on Jul 12, 2008 01:13 PM
send me 20 pin smps singnal & volteg picture or configration . comper to smps at(12 pin) & atx(20) pin . help me .
gkumar
,delhi, on Aug 04, 2008 04:17 PM
what is returning volteg
Mrinal Kanti Da
,Saltlake, Kolkata, on Jul 15, 2008 01:44 PM
I need a 300 watt SMPS for my PC having D850GB Mother Board
abhishek
,kanpur, on Sep 25, 2005 11:35 AM
sir plz send me 450w smps cabinet with rates. thank u
venkat
,Hyderabad, on May 05, 2008 12:49 PM
Zebronics lava-1400/- in india...intex,frontech,mercury all of as same but 100 to 300 diff. the best is zebronics lava..ok
SANJU
,LKO, on Jul 23, 2007 02:42 PM
I WANT TO SEE THE CIRCUIT OF INTEX SMPS 350W
mandeep
,panipat, on Sep 11, 2007 11:50 AM
please to sea me the circuit of smps
RAVI
,AHMEDABAD, on Nov 27, 2007 08:53 AM
I WANT TO WATCH SERCIT .............I
shashi
,bangalore, on Aug 10, 2007 04:56 PM
Informative
RA PAGARE
,MJUMBAI, on Jul 17, 2007 11:32 AM
pl furnsh circuit details & component spec.
s.senthilprakas
,chennai(india), on Jul 01, 2007 11:00 AM
thanks mate was very very very usefull............... hardware config: amd5600+ asus M2NPV-VM, 2GB 800FSB ram , 2 X IDE 160 GB hard disks , 2 x DVD writers , 1 SATA 200 GB hard disk.............. with one main 500 w (pure) smps, 400 w (pure) smps, 2 external fans running.........only thing is that 2ed smps is kept above the cabinet so looking ugly..anyways its very very good..thank u man
bharathi
,chennai, on Jun 25, 2007 11:09 AM
very good
pramod
,mumbai, on Mar 21, 2007 08:57 PM
buying 450 watt smps causes more power consumption
Harshal
,Mumbai, on Aug 27, 2005 04:35 PM
I have HEC 435W and the newest Thermaltake 500W modular... both from singapore. Very happy with both, later is powering ABIT An8-Sli + A64 3200 + OCZ Plat Rev2 +.. oced to 2600MHz with 2X6600GT doing simple job. I hope to get more out of processor. Now for topic Very Poor, the situation of Indian Market, yes i am repeating myself. No good choice. Worst is that those who are importing the stuff are not aware of technologies or specification .... and as few companies are here we often tend to go out of option n get d world famous China 180=350W & 250=450W PSUs.
ANISH
,MUMBAI, on Aug 29, 2005 09:14 PM
interested in cooler master hardware contact me :-)
Sujit George
,Bangalore, on Feb 17, 2007 04:36 PM
Hi Anish, DO you know where I can get a better Processor fan for my P4 3.0GHz Socket 478. The current one I have is very noisy.almost like a jet engine.
unknown
,unknown, on Jul 20, 2006 09:22 PM
very informative site ... keep up the good work .....
pruthvi raj
,Bangalore, on Jun 26, 2006 02:25 PM
i did electonic diplomo .i need computer hardware eduction
sri
,hyderabad, on Sep 08, 2005 10:41 AM
its good idea
ramesh
,bangalore, on Sep 18, 2005 08:28 PM
Hi All, I am a little new to fixing my pc. The gaurantee of my assembled pc expired and ironically, a month later my smps blew off. I bought a navtech 400W smps, the connectors and everything are identical to my previous i-ball cabinet 300W smps. Now, I fix it in, and the pc doesn't boot up. Is there sth I am missing. I saw a bunch of comments here about shorting pins. maybe there is sth I need to do additionally on a new smps ? I took out the smps, connected it seperately to my UPS , and tried measuring the DC at each of the connectors using a multimeter, using the black as ground, but dont get any voltage. is that ok ? Or does it reflect that the smps is not a working one ? Could any of you please help me out ? Thanks ramesh
yash
,akola, on Jan 15, 2006 06:01 PM
i also have the same type of problem my mobo wouldnt take poer from any of the smpses we tried...whats the problem?we even asked the compaq people and they said that any smps should work!
satyendra
,delhi, on Dec 26, 2005 06:35 PM
Sir, I want to know that why 24 pin SMPS required. we can also use 20 pin SMPS there also. What is the use of 24 pin connector in case we don't use, What will be affected.
Shaikh Jalaludd
,Hyderabad, on Aug 30, 2005 08:47 PM
You need to be an expert in attempting to do so.
MaxAxe
,Noida, on Aug 26, 2005 06:57 PM
Cheating cheating cheating ... you took my idea. take a look at this thread http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=53929 Ive just finished doing that 1 day ago ..... I was about to post a project log in the forum's PC modding area. CHEATING CHEATING !!
Max
,Mumbai, on Aug 30, 2005 11:32 AM
ROFL @ MaxAxe!! "you took my idea." LOL. Dude, you speak as if you were the One to invent the technique of coupling 2 SMPS. Quite a few, including myself hv been using 2 SMPS for over a year. I can post half a dozen links for articles on this very topic that hv been done months before you posted on that forum just to show who flicked whose idea. Also, i am sure that the guys at Techtree must hv had the article ready long b4 u posted. And lets face it, it's just a guide telling people how to do it. No where does it say that it was a technique they invented. So chill :) Spread the knowledge, dont try to claim fake ownership for the same ;) Note: I didn't flick ur nick either :)
jesubalan
,mumbai, on Aug 30, 2005 11:10 AM
pls tel how its possiple send some picture of the intal the xtra smps
anonymous
,mumbai, on Aug 29, 2005 09:22 PM
better go out & buy the new 1000w psu
Arun Krishnan
,Trivandrum, on Aug 27, 2005 10:03 AM
I have an Antec TrueBlue 480w PSU. Its performance superb and the warranty support is great. My A7N8X-Deluxe once shorted its 5v pins (PCB problem) and this SMPS didnt die. Actually if it had died, it would've taken a lot of expensive hardware with it. But I didnt notice it till the system became unstable and a burning smell started to come from the system. I opened it up and saw the the plastic in the 5v pins BURNED. Now I use an A8N-SLI Deluxe with X800XTPE, FX55 and 5 HDDs and this PSU still works like a charm. I told Antec support what happened and they told me to send in the PSU if anything seemed wrong. Now thats superb support. Oh, it has 3 years replacement warranty. Now tell me if any ole' 500 rupee SMPS would survive this? Actually would your system survive?
Manoj
,Hyderabad, on Aug 29, 2005 07:08 AM
Yeah Antec PSUs rule! I remember before I got my Antec TruePower 330, I used to replace PSUs every 8-10 months! But its now been over 3.5 years and its still going great!
bagman
,Mumbai, on Aug 29, 2005 05:00 PM
Antec Rules. I use two antec 400w psu's, when i needed them, higher rating psu's were not there. Also by joining up the wires in parallel config, u can start both psu's at the same time and turn it off at the same time. As for keeping, a midi-tower can fit both psu's with a few extra holes drilled. Stick to branded psu's. The cost is 1 time, the safety of the equipment is more imp. psu's for 300-500 Rs really cant handle loads more than 250w and will burn up under any stress.
raja
,bangalore, on Aug 26, 2005 11:10 PM
a 400w psu from zebronics is just 450 bucks .. is that very costly??
Ryan
,Hyderabad, on Aug 27, 2005 06:30 AM
Yes, its very costly, because more often than not u will end up blowing it or damaging one of ur computers components. Zebronics 400W SMPS is the worst available in the market. The powersafe 400W is available for 1450/- and the 500Wfor 2800/-
ANISH MODI
,MUMBAI, on Aug 29, 2005 01:22 PM
thats definitely not 400w but a wate of money
Tarun Raju
,Hyderabad, on Aug 27, 2005 06:14 PM
Point to be added: Draw two seperate wires from pin 14 and 15. connect them parallel to your cabinet's pwr on switch (solder it). This way you'll be able to start both the SMPSes absolutely SIMULTANEOUSLY. This way you wont end up in blues with any drives connected to the auxillary (second) SMPS
Shree
,Chennai, on Aug 28, 2005 10:00 AM
Where do u keep this add on SMPS in ur Cabinet ?
MaxAxe
,Noida, on Aug 27, 2005 04:39 PM
HAHAHAHA ... this is what you get for copying someone else's work .............. :P
mike
,quebec, on Aug 27, 2005 04:16 PM
Get ready for the lawsuits.
Aloke Chatterje
,Calcutta, on Aug 27, 2005 09:59 AM
Very very Impractiacl and dangerous suggestion. an ideal recipe for diaster. Implies you keep your cabinet open and short the starting jumper everytime you want to start the computer.Really silly.
Vinod
,Chennai, on Aug 27, 2005 09:56 AM
the Antec PSU are available all around now. The version 2.0 is expected to arrive any time, the PSU has 4- Sata power connectors, 3 Fan only connectors, 1 PCI-e graphic card power connector, Dual 12V rail in addition to the regular power connectors, it obviously has a 24 PIN power connector. with these kind of PSU's available it would be wise to invest on it, a PSU is a long term product, it will not get outdated as like your processor or mother board, ownership time is more so buy the best one with good warranty support.
Ayan Debnath
,Kolkata, on Aug 27, 2005 08:55 AM
what about 24pin SMPS ?
Vinod
,Chennai, on Aug 27, 2005 09:48 AM
Suggest to go for a newer one rather. a version 2.0 PSU with a minimum of True 550.
Ritesh
,Mumbai, on Aug 27, 2005 09:39 AM
Well, this is an AWFUL thing to do. How can anybody do this. Sooner than later, one would end up blowing his computer's motherboard. I hope this write up is pulled down sooner than later. I use thermaltake true power 480 watts with peak output beyond 500 watts. It's expensive but it has so many extra wires for anything u imagine and also brass finish fans on two sides of the case. When one invests in a decent proc, would he not invest in a decent smps to power it !
your daddy
,koyaanisqatsi, on Aug 27, 2005 09:03 AM
Oh, it's our good friend Niketu Shah once again, man you're such a techno-geek wannabe.
ence
,Kolkata, on Aug 27, 2005 08:27 AM
Installing an additional SMPS - What an appalling misuse of web-column with unnecessary diffusion of tech knowledge, perhaps from an IT-Geek. Folks, don’t mess with the mobo (the very idea of shorting pins is anathema to me – not a tech savvy person) & the interior geometry of you computer case if you do not want to be saddled with heat related issues. The same matter (low power SMPS with power hungry devices) can be easily solved by buying 3.5” or 5.25” external FireWire 800 (better than USB as it has its own processor on board & does not take away cpu power – for better performance use one with NEC chipset) enclosures for HDD, Optical Drives, etc., with external power supply which if necessary can be daisy chained (upto 16 devices). Better still, even if your BIOS does not support the size of the HDD it can still be used with external enclosure without difficulty. If your mobo has no FireWire port just install one PCI FireWire (or FireWire USB combo) host controller card. Another option buy a Intex / TechCom / Micortek / iBall cabinet with a 300 W SMPS at an average cost of Rs. 800/- and use this with a FireWire Hub (to connect with the parent computer) or use Symbios 13FW500 ATA to 1394 adapter which forms the actual bridge between the parallel IDE interface and serial 1394 (FireWire) interface to load as many components you wish. The cabinets have more than one fan to take care heat generated. Instead of FireWire you may use USB 2.0 connections but in my view FireWire 800 is a better option Try this out.
Abhishek Mitra
,Kolkata, India, on Aug 26, 2005 10:52 PM
Impressive though not Aesthetic!

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