• Phones not Suitable for 3G

    Phones not Suitable for 3G

    Rohan Naravane, Nov 22, 2010 1318 hrs IST

    If you want to use the upcoming high-speed mobile Internet, then stay away from these models

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In my career as a mobile phone reviewer there have been numerous occasions when I've had to write this over and over in articles, "This Phone supports 3G, but unfortunately since it isn't functional with a majority of operators, I doubt you'll have any use of this feature". Such was the sorry state of affairs; despite companies launching phones that supported this high-speed, broadband-grade wireless internet that we know as 3G, not many would be able to reap its benefits. So much so that many phone makers came up with customized versions of popular models that were sold without a 3G chip in them in order to drop the price.  

However, things have changed now. Government run operators BSNL and MTNL have been providing 3.5G (HSDPA) services. But the real stimulant has been private operators rolling out 3G services. If all goes well, it is expected that all major operators will have 3G operational by the first quarter of next year. Some like Tata Docomo have already pushed the Nitro-boost.

Therefore, I'm somewhat compelled to write about a couple of phones that are selling in the market that don't have 3G. It is obvious that these aren't the inexpensive, less than Rs. 5000 models, where it'd be criminal to expect 3G from them (at least for now). Not to say that there aren't any phones for Rs. 5k that don't have it. Also, it is obvious to assume that every phone above Rs. 12,000 has 3G support. So, we're talking of phones in the Rs. 7,000 to Rs. 12,000 range - a range that defines the set of people who are interested in not just talking or texting.

So what will you really miss out on if you buy a handset without 3G? Well, no prizes for guessing, faster internet speeds. Although 2.5G (or EDGE) internet may be enough for text-based data transfers like emailing, chatting or tweeting, opening any kind of image isn't even close to instantaneous. Ever used the Facebook mobile app to view or upload photographs on an EDGE connection? You'll know the pain I'm talking of. With 3.5G's connection that theoretically gives 3.6 Mbps at least, uploading photographs taken from your phone directly to a social networking site or photo-sharing site will be faster. Watching streaming videos will actually be possible without patiently waiting as you watch the hair of people around you grow. You could also do other cool stuff like make video-calls or use your phone as a high-speed modem to cater to other computing devices like a laptop or an iPod Touch. 

So here are some phones you should stay away from if you want to jump on the 3G bandwagon:

Samsung Wave533 or Wave525



The original Samsung Wave (a.k.a the S8500) came and left too soon than we'd have liked. But its spirit still lives on in the hearts of its cheaper predecessors, and by that we refer to the Bada OS. Two phones with exact specifications are selling in the market with only one major difference - the Wave533 has a sliding QWERTY keyboard, while the Wave525 is a touchscreen-only phone. Looking at the styling and price, the Wave533 seems to be a good replacement for the Corby Pro B5310, while the Wave525 is a good Samsung Star successor.

Both have capacitive screens with a fair 240 x 400 pixel resolution and given how fairly well-designed and intuitive TouchWIZ 3.0 on the Bada OS was, I'm sure the experience would be much better than their older TouchWIZ UI versions. They have many good features one would ask for; Wi-Fi 802.11n support, GPS, 3.5mm earphone jack, accelerometer and multi-touch support. 

The pricing is also quite affordable. The keyboard-less Wave525 sells for Rs. 7,500 while the QWERTY-wielding Wave533 sells for Rs. 8,900. It is therefore very unfortunate that these seemingly decent phones don't have any kind of 3G support. The bigger screen and a smartphone OS would really beg for it once 3G is widely available in India.


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DEBOJIT CHAKRAB
,KOLKATA, on Mar 30, 2011 11:59 AM
I HAVE NOKIA E63...... CAN I USE 3G FACILITY IN THIS MOBILE????? WATCH TV MOVIE MATCH ETC..... PLZ REPLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.....
thanga prakash
,salem, on Dec 02, 2010 08:35 PM
Lot of 3G phones comes without secondary camera for video calling though it support high speed. check Sony Ericsson J105i for <6k ( 3G with HSPDA 3.6 mbps and secondary camera).
Dinesh Bhatia
,Patiala, on Dec 02, 2010 04:53 PM
Wave 533 has been loaded with JAVA or not , what does it means of Window 6.5 it represents that the phone is an window phone. Can we look the stock market on this phone.
chaitanya
,chennai, on Dec 02, 2010 12:25 PM
I would recommend c5 for full 3g support. it has video calling feature too which is not found in touchscreen mobiles that are below 10000 Rs. mark. and for touch i would suggest nokia 5235 for some what faster internet if you can afford upto Rs. 10000
PRITISH RAJ
,TANDA, on Nov 23, 2010 04:37 PM
do you really think that operator in india will be able to deliver even 1 MB/s speed I AM USING BSNL 3G ON E 72 ,IT IS FAST BUT NOT MORE THAN 512 KB/S,LET THE PRIVATE OPERATOR COME . BROADBAND DEFINITION IN INDIA IS SPEED MORE THAN 256KB/S.
naveenchaudhary
,meerut, on Nov 23, 2010 05:32 PM
ya pritish, u r right, BSNL's 3G is poor, i merely get speeds above 600kbps with an extremely poor ping time. while on TataDocomo 3G i get 600kbps at minimum, and it reaches above 2.4MBps ping Mumbai test server at 157ms, somehow docomo's plans are costlier. while BSNL's upload speed is a shame, no matter u r using 'HSUPA+' device.. have a lot expectations from Airtel..
bipin
,hyderabad, on Nov 29, 2010 10:51 PM
you do have to realize that the bandwidth is shared at any given point of time. so if more people are on the network doing downloads the speeds will go down. in the case of bsnl its the only player right now. wait sometime the private players too will face the same situation and you will be cursing them as well XD, i have a reliance netconnect broadband, its balzing fast in morning and slows down in the during the night hours when more people are downloading. there are other aspects of connectivity apart from speed such as latency, packets dropped etc that we are not considering and i ve to admit the performance of all the players are in similar level, i.e no one is a stellar providers
Prabir Bhatt
,Pune, on Nov 29, 2010 01:34 PM
!!!!!GUYS STAY AWAY FROM ALL ANDROID PHONES IF YOU WANT TO USE 3G VIDEO CALLING !!!!! This is a problem with the OS. Google has decided not to add the feature to its OS. You can check the specs of any Android phone in the market ... It will not support native 3G video call....no matter how expensive ur phone is
bipin
,hyderabad, on Nov 29, 2010 10:41 PM
well my galaxy s does do video call on bsnl network. so your comment is in error. check the facts before spreading FUD. any android device that is version 2.x and above and has a front facing camera can make a 3g call. i am not sure about the 1.x series though
Alok
,LUCKNOW, on Nov 27, 2010 08:56 PM
Wow finely I found some one on various Tech Sites who had real knowledge of Mobile phones . Thnx bro yr article is very useful and eyeopener also.
Manas Vimal
,Pune, on Nov 24, 2010 09:08 PM
Thanks for the very informative article, its really important to know the difference between 3G & 3.5G. Could you please help me by telling whether HTC Wildfire uses 3G or 3.5G, I am planning to buy it soon.
Rohan
,TechTree, on Nov 25, 2010 10:21 PM
HTC Wildfire supports 3.5G.
Guru
,Modinagar, on Nov 23, 2010 08:31 PM
This list should include phones like Nokia 2730, 7230, E63, Samsung S3370 & LG GU285 because they are making people fool by saying that they have 3g while they can give only a speed of 384kbps which is only marginal better than edge. Mostly of them don't have even a videocall camera too. The likes of Nokia 5233, Samsung Wave525/533, or BB 8520 are not saying that they have 3g, so customer knows while buying them that he is not buying a 3g mobile. If he does't need 3g, he can go for them. So the article should be about phones like Nokia 7230 rather than likes of 5233.
naveenchaudhary
,meerut, on Nov 23, 2010 11:22 PM
very right, actually there are various catagories of 3g, likes of wcdma are slower than hspa+. so instead of describing the 3g and associated terms, the author only focused on a few handsets.. and those fones arent even very popular ones..
deepak
,tiruchy, on Nov 23, 2010 10:19 PM
please tel aboutl sonyericsson j105i naite 3g usages and effectiveness with 3g?
shibtanu biswas
,Kolkata, on Nov 23, 2010 01:18 PM
thank god i got the 5800 xm last year, i considered the 5233 for its low cost but got the 5800 only for 3g. lot of friends laughed at me for paying more for the 'same' phone. ha ha, time for me to laugh at them !!!!!!!!
Haresh
,Dhule, on Nov 23, 2010 12:36 PM
Dear friend, Can you please tell me what speed Spice QT95 (dual sim 3G mobile) supports?
Pranay
,Del, on Nov 23, 2010 10:00 AM
This is as if you HAD to write some thing, so you DID.
naveenchaudhary
,meerut, on Nov 22, 2010 06:05 PM
i am haunted by a guilt since morning, my mistake was that i read this article early morning today.. shameful article.. this article would have done if it were published in some national daily.. but unacceptable on techtree..
sachin
,goa, on Nov 22, 2010 01:54 PM
after 3G launch by docomo,their speeds on EDGE have dropped by more then half. looks like they have diverted most of their bandwidth towards 3G,and are forcing consumers to switch to 3G.

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